S3EP33 - Just Hanging Out

Pastor Newms:
[0:00] Intro video.

Pastor Bill:
[0:04] Yay.

Pastor Newms:
[0:06] Intro video. How was the level of the intro video did it need to come down at all? Was it good?

Pastor Bill:
[0:14] It was good no they were just right yeah.

 

Pastor Newms:

alright good good.

 

Pastor Bill:
That you could hear the you could hear that well I don't know I thought maybe the music was a little low, maybe could have turned the music up a little bit but the volume of the of the talking was.

Pastor Newms:
[0:32] Well yeah it's the same volume as normal.

 

Pastor Bill
What was the number of this episode?

 

Pastor Newms:

I don't remember I've lost track it.

Pastor Bill:
[0:58] I'll go look at the titles.

Pastor Newms:
[1:02] I turn this computer on when I texted you earlier so. Um, I ain't got nothing going nothing. I haven't created the folder for today nice why did you type that okay.

Pastor Bill:
[1:23] Mirand on Facebook beat me to it. It's in some of the season and episode number. Hey Biggs, Biggs on Twitch we're doing a thing we're we yeah we talked during the five minute countdown now so you should be able to hear us it was my chatter we're going to chat.

Pastor Newms:
[1:51] I'll give you some chatter cheddar sea.

Pastor Bill:
[1:57] Yeah HPuffPhoenix says.

Pastor Newms:
[2:02] Are we staying up super late tonight and watching things or are you going to be are you going to be watching.

Pastor Bill:
[2:10] It's Father's Day.

Pastor Newms:
[2:11] Or are you going to be watching things with your wife.

Pastor Bill:
[2:14] I'm probably going to be spending time with my wife since it’s father's day.

Pastor Newms:
[2:25] But it's the first episode of season 5 aha. Haha yeah we all came home and crashed like hardcore. There's a come with your deep theological questions Bring It On.

[2:51] Push down with the beds been calling she has already been in the bed that was calling her name she slept on the way down here mmm mmm.

Pastor Bill:
[3:03] Okay so like I was saying before we started the countdown this game terragenesis game. My temperature is still too hot I'm trying to get my temperature down to terraforming the Moon, and that's creating more water or but I still need to get my temperature down more but then I've got too much water just crazy and then,
the game got complicated it was supposed to be a I can just leave it running while I go do other stuff but then all of the little plants that I created on the planet all died off every time I walked away, so I gotta pause the game when I walk away now or the whole planet dies.

Pastor Newms:
[3:47] Hello the best 13:17 appears to be one of my cousins.

Pastor Bill:
[3:55] The best 1317 like Macallan 1317.

[4:03] McCallum it's the it's a scotch.

[4:20] I collect useless details in my brain.

Pastor Newms:
[4:22] Forty seconds by the way.

Pastor Bill:
[4:25] 40 second buffer.

 

Pastor Newms:

No, we’re not doing that.

 

Pastor Bill:

[4:54] Um maybe it's your cousin Matt do you have a cousin Matt?

Pastor Newms:
[5:00] Have to cousin mats oh yeah that's my cousin Matt Okay there I push the right button.

Pastor Bill:
[5:12] Hello and welcome to season 3 episode 33 of The Berean Manifesto. Tonight we are hanging out, we're answering questions we are getting into deep theological discussions Maybe.

Pastor Newms:
[5:28] About book.

Pastor Bill:
[5:30] If that happens that comes up it may not, um it's Father's Day Newms is a father I'm a father we're kind of taking it easy Newms had a family reunion this week and I,
set up my lovely workspace with my new desk and my new shelves that my wife got me for my Father's Day present and I redid my rug so it's not all you know hanging loose.

Pastor Newms:
[5:53] And you hung the free hugs where everyone can actually see him that's the T-shirt he wears.

Pastor Bill:
[5:58] And I hug my.

Pastor Newms:
[5:59] When we do ministry.

Pastor Bill:
[6:00] Sure yeah this is a t-shirt we've been wearing we do ministry we're going to design a new one for the next the next Pride that we actually have, um because that's two prior as in a row that they canceled, and so yeah this is a shirt I cut up my shirt and mounted it on a canvas and hung it and then I don't know if you can see this. This is our determination letter from the IRS, that makes our church a church in the eyes of the government.

Pastor Newms:
[6:32] Yeah it was fun the family reunions was real good, it's enjoyable soft family some we like some we don't like families family who knows, it was very interesting some of the conversations I had oh excuse me, I don't know is the Dallas Pride canceled Biggs is asking.

Pastor Bill:
[6:57] Dallas pride is cancelled what they're doing instead is you're just having a concert, One concert where everyone will be social distancing and wearing masks and that's all they're doing. There's no vendors there's no you know any opportunity for any of that and then hopefully next year we'll be able to have a face to face Pride event where we can go out and spread the love of God and let people know that we love them.

Pastor Newms:
[7:38] Unless you come to Nashville in September.

Pastor Bill:
[7:43] Is Nashville having their Pride in September? Well I mean you didn't send me any information so we wouldn't have a booth but.

Pastor Newms:
[7:53] We could still go.

Pastor Bill:
[7:54] You could you can send me information and we can get a booth probably still.

Pastor Newms:
[7:59] I'm not sure how we would work a booth because we can't you have to bring everything and that be really complicated.

Pastor Bill:
[8:06] Well I'm sure you have an Academy there and we can just go get a 10 by 10 foot you know there's like a hundred bucks for one of those so.

Pastor Newms:
[8:17] H puff Phoenix will be sending you all the pride.

Pastor Bill:
[8:21] HPuffPhoenix is going to send me the.

Pastor Newms:
[8:23] Because whether you come or not I'm going so, it's really either way you really should probably send me some cards I'm gonna need some of those either way,
I'm going.

Pastor Bill:
[8:45] It wouldn't be a bad idea I mean that's one of the things that's in you know my heart and it's in the heart of this ministry to reach out and it started with um the Holy Spirit really bring to my attention to the suicide numbers for that demographic and it really just kind of blossomed from there my earlier in life I was I was I was I was homophobic for sure.

Pastor Newms:
[9:23] Uh-huh.

Pastor Bill:
[9:25] Didn't want to be in Ministry to that community that that demographic didn't have anything to do with it.

Pastor Newms:
[9:32] Several demographics actually but that one also.

Pastor Bill:
[9:36] And then as time got has gone by the Lord's worked on my heart and and you know and I've gone through this transformation in knowing you know that the Lord wants me to be doing Ministry in this area and so that's what we've done. We've reached out and we've made ourselves available and gone to Pride twice in Dallas and done Ministry because I mean we walk what we talked and we preach love and so we love.

Pastor Newms:
[10:11] Some of us better than others.

Pastor Bill:
[10:15] Does it hurt you as much as it does me that people post videos about Christians being anti LGBT or sermons where they preach just stupid stuff about being anti LGBT and in the like the number one comment is a no hate like Christian love,
does that bug you as much as it bugs me.

Pastor Newms:
[10:42] Um yes.

Pastor Bill:
[10:42] Because I'm like that's not that's not love and I and it hurts my heart that you've been hurt by Christians who claim to love it just hurts me so much.

Pastor Newms:
[10:54] And that's the big thing about it it's not necessarily just the fact of these people are so stupid it's the fact that the commenters have been so hurt we have sadly we've sadly.

Pastor Bill:
[11:07] That's what hurts me is that they have a right to say that.

Pastor Newms:
[11:16] I did not see real Christians forgive like Jesus billboard but that's a good one yeah like Heather said.

Pastor Bill:
[11:24] Phoenix see ya.

Pastor Newms:
[11:26] Like HPuffPheonix said.

Pastor Bill:
[11:29] She's had her own experiences in this area lately and so she can relate to that comment and that's what honestly irks me is that is a, completely Justified comment and I'm like I I I want to hug you and I want to let you know that, we're not all like that some of us actually love and aren't hung up on, our own deficiencies too much to see past our theology, to actually love you and to question my theology actually accurately biblical, or have I learned things out of context and need to put them back into Biblical context.

Pastor Newms:
[12:16] Yeah and that's a big one a big one is so many people and they don't look at the aspect of the Berean lifestyle you know as Paul teaches you know be like the Bereans because they actually, tested what they heard and took it back to the Bible and if it didn't line up with the Bible they say okay that's not right.

Pastor Bill:
[12:41] Let's be honest he didn't say Bible he said scriptures.

Pastor Newms:
[12:44] Well yes he said.

Pastor Bill:
[12:46] Where I want to I don't want to drop in some confusion and anyone that might be listening to this and go wait Paul said Bible also the word bible.

Pastor Newms:
[12:55] That'd be really weird.

Pastor Bill:
[12:57] It would be really weird.

Pastor Newms:
[12:58] Since it didn't exist yet yeah and it's an English word so be really really weird.

Pastor Bill:
[13:06] It would be really really weird yeah.

Pastor Newms:
[13:09] No actually we're what is the root of Bible.

Pastor Bill:
[13:13] It's a biblio of it's a Latin word.

Pastor Newms:
[13:18] So it's Latin okay.

Pastor Bill:
[13:20] It's a Latin word that did you literally just means book pretty much but in this case we would we would say the book.

[13:33] You looking it up you googling it the etymology of the word bible always agree.

Pastor Newms:
[13:35] Yeah it's actually it is from it is from Greek meaning the books.

Pastor Bill:
[13:42] Books plural gotcha.

Pastor Newms:
[13:45] It had the literal meaning of scroll so.

Pastor Bill:
[14:01] Bigle did you mean Bible b.i.b.l.e.

Pastor Newms:
[14:06] Yes that's the book for me I Stand Alone.

[14:16] First you're going to tear the pages because they're always leather and you're going to.

Pastor Bill:
[14:20] Yeah you shouldn't be standing on books that's not good for books.

Pastor Newms:
[14:23] Now there's something that I always have an issue with I love books,
anyone who knows me very well knows I love books I have boxes of books in the house right now because I still haven't built all of the bookshelves necessary to hold everything in this house so. Um so I always struggle with that when people are like,
I don’t write in my Bible and I'm I always go and not because there's anything it's not like the Bible special you shouldn't write in it that's not the reason it's just like why did you write the book you know I have workbook.

Pastor Bill:
[15:24] So are sacrificing there.

Pastor Newms:
[15:27] II have workbooks.

Pastor Bill:
[15:29] Books.

Pastor Newms:
[15:30] Yeah I have I have work I have work books that have sheets, of paper in them because certain workbooks I was like this isn't feel like a workbook so I'm not writing in it I've gotten over.

Pastor Bill:
[15:46] Did you do with the Divine Easter devotional that I made that one year did you not right in that.

[15:56] Really okay.

Pastor Newms:
[15:56] It's on a bookshelf now there are some books I have written in over the years some I don't really have a problem with and I don't really know why, but some just don't feel like they should be written in if the pages don't feel right I won't write in it.

Pastor Bill:
[16:21] Mmm I definitely write in my Bible I'll write any book I don't care but mainly my Bible I write when in when I read something and I feel like, I've received Holy Spirit and inspiration you know I'll write it in the margin, and then if I come back across that, and I'm like oh I felt like this before if I feel like well that was definitely my ego that was definitely pride those I'm gonna flush whatever I’ll mark it out.
My spirits still confirms that that's accurate then I'll leave it and that's you know that's one of the things that I do and I mean you can look at my this is a Bible I use most often you can't really you don't really see much because that doesn't happen all the time it happens you know infrequently but it does have.

Pastor Newms:
[17:18] Yeah I've got notebooks just tons of notebooks.

Pastor Bill:
[17:22] The one Bible I won't write in, is my copy of the Geneva Bible the 1599 Geneva Bible the version that the pilgrims brought with them on the Mayflower I'll highlight in this Bible, but I don't write in this Bible and I love this translation because it isn't,
influenced by the King James and it's translation this was translated before the King James was and the King James translation was written was was, what kicked off The King James translation party as it were was that King James was upset that people were using this Bible, instead of something that he had signed off on, and so that that was the final straw and why he started having his own bible translated, and so I love this translation I don't read from it all the time but I do reference it if I find a discrepancy, between the King James and my CSB and then my going back to the Greek or the Hebrew doesn't Define it well enough for me.

[18:47] I'll reference my Geneva to see, you know what am I talking about what am I looking at what was King James the King of King James was the King of England.

Pastor Newms:
[18:59] Which would the Church of England also makes him the head of the church correct.

Pastor Bill:
[19:05] Right which is a completely different issue he founded the Church of England before he, started his translation work, because he was upset at the Catholic church for overriding his, his laws and his authority and, and the church was like well we have the authority of God because we're the church and he was like but I have the authority of God because I'm the king and they were like Well church Trump's King and he was like okay, I'll just declare myself the Church of England and me the head of the church and so now I'm the church.

Pastor Newms:
[19:50] James became king of Scotland in.

Pastor Bill:
[20:00] You know what maybe was Henry that made the king of the Church of England Biggs said he thought that.

Pastor Newms:
[20:05] Yeah I think it's Henry that did the.

[20:15] James was the King of Scotland from 1567 to 1625 and the King of England England from 1603 to 1625.

Pastor Bill:
[20:26] Hey I think you're right I think it was Henry I think my brain lumped it into James but that's not right it is Henry but brains are like that memory is like that sometime.

Pastor Newms:
[20:41] The Church of England was founded in 1534 definitely before.

Pastor Bill:
[20:46] So definitely not James. It was more than Biggs says because he could not divorce his wife and a lot of historians paint it that way but that was literally only about this much of it that wasn't the whole story.

Pastor Newms:
[21:03] Henry the 8th in 1534 and of course this says because of his annulment to,
so then he. Then pulled it to the Church of England.

Pastor Bill:
[21:29] Henry took a lot of women's heads, one of his wives he beheaded her because she gave birth to a daughter instead of a son, I’m like, give her another chance bro.

Pastor Newms:
[21:50] King James started the project in 1604 and the first trip the first published was of course 1611.

Pastor Bill:
[22:00] And the Geneva Bible was published in 1599.

Pastor Newms:
[22:04] And it was just the new version would help consolidate political power is what historians believe.

Pastor Bill:
[22:12] Now granted, the Geneva Bible was not in the language that it is in right now and neither was the King James Bible but both the King James Bible and the Geneva Bible were written in old English and if you want to know what old English looks like because it's really hard to find a copy of the Bible in Old English, go look for a copy of the Canterbury Tales in Old English and that'll give you an idea of what English was like in the time of King James.

Pastor Newms:
[22:48] I've seen some you know in museums and stuff copies of it and they'll have it open and it's it's to me especially being dyslexic it's unreadable.

Pastor Bill:
[23:00] It is it is it is unreadable it really is.

[23:12] It's pretty close like the word Jesus isn't pronounced Jesus it's EOsus and it's spelled Ioesus, um in English that's English, now we call it Old English because since then we've replaced all the English with the queen's English which is what, modern King James bibles are translated into and what The Geneva Bible is translated into is the queen's English and then from there we got English which does what, British people speak right now which is a slang version of the queen's English and we have American English which is.

Pastor Newms:
[24:03] It's a language we'll leave it at that.

Pastor Bill:
[24:04] Melting Pot language it's just a bunch of languages that we pulled everything together and borrowed from to make a whole different version of English.

Pastor Newms:
[24:14] It's a something is what it is.

Pastor Bill:
[24:16] But Phoenix says Canterbury Tales gives me British literature Nightmares From culinary, I agree Canterbury Tales in the original language will get anyone nightmares when you hear it spoken especially it is, terrifying Old English is it's terrifying to here,
at least for me.

Pastor Newms:
[24:46] It doesn't it messes with your brain because it's close but not there so it feels like an alien trying to speak your language.

Pastor Bill:
[24:57] Well it almost feels like Roman and German and English just like imploaded into each other.

Pastor Newms:
[25:07] I mean that's basically what happened.

Pastor Bill:
[25:12] That's what happened but it actually sounds like it, when you're when you're speaking American English in your borrowing words from you know Latin and  Spanish and German you don't actively understand that but when you hear Old English, and you know and you know you know enough of these Roman and Germanic and languages and you can actually feel you know. It's this it's crazy it's this mishmash of insanity.

Pastor Newms:
[25:44] It's a little weird yeah I will.

Pastor Bill:
[25:48] All right so we may be, not having an official night but we're still going to know do Get To Know The Pastor's so come back we'll get everybody involved not just you and me we get everybody in the check ball two.

Pastor Newms:
[26:06] I can't go any farther from when I baby sat Liby the cages is still in my office so this is as far as I can escape.

Pastor Bill:
[26:17] You did.

Pastor Newms:
[26:18] I can only Escape I didn't think it through and then when I got there I went.

Pastor Bill:
[26:27] Okay you ready what's the worst job you've ever had.

Pastor Newms:
[26:36] Can I answer for you.

Pastor Bill:
[26:43] Um I've got to but yeah go ahead.

Pastor Newms:
[26:45] Walmart specifically in that little Podunk town that was terrible, where the store manager was completely insane and broke all the rules. Yeah thank you HPuffPhoenix that's a good point Libby is a dog I should clarify that.

Pastor Bill:
[27:14] We have a cage when we were babysitting.

Pastor Newms:
[27:18] Thank you H Puff Phoenix.

Pastor Bill:
[27:22] I didn't even think about it that yeah think about it.

Pastor Newms:
[27:28] I don't have any people that would be in cages running around I don't want to try to explain since we have young ones here what any of those terms might be I would love I would love for you to have to explain that later though if I used any other terms.

Pastor Bill:
[27:49] That would be interesting, okay so Biggs asks paid or unpaid job either just any job responsibilities that you have so let me you're right but let me before I say anything further about that, my experience with this employer WalMart was my personal and shouldn't be taken as any reflection of judgment or claims, against the largest employer in the world who can sue my butt off for ages.

Pastor Newms:
[28:31] No and because.

Pastor Bill:
[28:32] It should have no reflection on the corporation.

Pastor Newms:
[28:34] And what's crazy about that I will say is he still talking but we can't hear him sorry we'll give him a second to come back are you back now, you did you left right about here.

Pastor Bill:
[28:52] Let me make sure I'm not on the Wi-Fi, I'm not.

Pastor Newms:
[29:00] So for me Walmart wasn't my worst job I loved it was great, and so when you tried to get a job there you were like oh this is going to be good and I'm like that's why I said for a bad store manager because I worked for a store managers that was awesome.

Pastor Bill:
[29:22] By the time I was coming to the end of my term at Walmart it was so bad,
that I literally would walk in the front door and become so nauseated the first thing I would do before I clocked in was go throw up. And then I would go clock in, it was that it was really, really bad, and it wasn't so much the customers the customers,
I mean they were just normal customers they have needs yeah they're not the brightest sometimes because they'd be like hey help me find, but yeah like you said having a store manager that did everything wrong I mean he would literally come around the store with his little cart pushing his car man and give us a notes on things that needed to be done.

[30:32] And you do the things on your notes and then he follow up after lunch and spend 10 minutes swearing at you. Because you did the thing that he told you to do on your note and now he's saying that's wrong you should never do that, we don't do that here and I'm like. I literally just did what's in your the note that you gave me this morning I can literally word for word what you wrote in your notes, so that was my Walmart experience and then number two for me was once again not reflective on the whole Corporation but McDonald's.

[31:18] I worked at McDonald's for 3 days I worked flipping burgers for three days,
and by that I mean.

[31:30] I'm standing there and they want me to flip burgers that are on a surface that I could Bend like this to get to, and I'm bending down this freezer pull out meat to put on this thing and then push this button and it goes down which is supposed to fully cook them, or at least cook them most of the way and then you're supposed to transfer the heating trays but ours didn't quite work right, so after I push the button and it went down once then I had to flip them literally flip them and press the button again,
cook them again and then put them in the trays and ever so often I would have to do it a third time, because you literally they were literally still pink, um like uh not even fully thawed yet pink and hard still after two times of using the, heated press and on the third day when my shift manager came over and wanted to have the conversation about, you know you're a great employee and in 6 months I want to get you into the management training program and you could make up to nine dollars an hour.

[32:49] That was the last straw that was my okay my back hurts constantly I’m burned all over my arms from this this thing, you're talking about a future where I can look forward to maxing out at nine dollars an hour I'm done.

Pastor Newms:
[33:06] So I've been sitting here trying to think. I've had jobs that had bad situations but no bad jobs overall jobs that turned into bad, but I'd probably have to say it was working for the prison software that was probably the worst just.

Pastor Bill:
[33:46] It wasn't calling Baptist Churches to try to get them to send their kids to an Acquire The Fire.

Pastor Newms:
[33:54] No I don't think it was because the job wasn't bad the people were just really really rude to someone who believed the same thing they did mostly, so now I don't think that was the job but the, just the actual but that job was bad because of the it started off being a little bit of micromanagement and I was like okay I'm new cool and then after, what was it for years it never changed and so at a certain point it was like okay I'm done, and so I moved to Tennessee um so yeah.

Pastor Bill:
[34:42] Zadie says but that wasn't a job is she talking about you or she's talking about what I said about your ministry assignment.

Pastor Newms:
[34:49] What you said because it was yeah she's saying what you said because it was a.

Pastor Bill:
[34:56] No it was definitely a job.

[35:05] All right so Biggs on Twitch says washing big electric cabinets with powerwash spraying acid, that sounds terrifying.

Pastor Newms:
[35:20] How old were you at that point Biggs? Like would that even be legal at this point the kind of acid wash they used back then because I know it was like the 1500 s.

Pastor Bill:
[35:34] The fifteen hundreds, Biggs was 18.

Pastor Newms:
[35:38] Yeah 18 so that was 1392 so I mean it yeah I can see that.

Pastor Bill:
[35:45] Biggs is not older than the United States of America come on man.

Pastor Newms:
[35:54] No but some of his family members might be.

Pastor Bill:
[35:58] Oh You would know you were just spending time with them.

Pastor Newms:
[36:03] And by the way just in case you're wondering the Matt that is joining us the best, he's in the good part and actually only lives about you know a little ways away from here so it's good cuz, we're going to start a oh he's being mean now.

Pastor Bill:
[36:32] He is being mean he calling you old.

Pastor Newms:
[36:34] Cuz that means that is true I was born when he was 20 supposedly but I don't know if vampires when they have children they age in the same way.

Pastor Bill:
[36:43] Twenty hundred Maybe.

Pastor Newms:
[36:44] Maybe. So and then HPuffPhoenix said the same thing you said but for a different reason she said McDonald's because of the customers because she wrote wrote, sheep was. Can I try that one again we'll just cut that out and post that we don't do, it'll do any post but post know we're live we're not playing this game.

Pastor Bill:
[37:30] This is a live man.

Pastor Newms:
[37:31] Oh yeah I forgot, she worked the drive-thru most of the time so she mm yeah.

Pastor Bill:
[37:46] Now on the opposite side what about good jobs like what's the best job. Is it really.

Pastor Newms:
[38:04] For me it is because and here's the reason why all of my jobs have ended really really weirdly, except for Walmart actually Walmart ended because I transitioned out to focus on school, but all of them, ended because I chose to because of the situations except for one and, and that one, is just real, bad situation from beginning to end but I enjoyed the work, so I that one I don't even think I could begin to answer I love the company I am currently working for because what they do is awesome, Heather sorry HPuffPhoenix said in her message where she currently works I can't it's names are hard for me.

Pastor Bill:
[39:09] Yeah so when I hear when I hear HPuff or read heads pathetic say that and hear you say that I'm like looking for a raise huh.

Pastor Newms:
[39:19] No my eval already.

Pastor Bill:
[39:20] Get now is the best job I've ever had.

Pastor Newms:
[39:23] No my evals already come through and sadly it was really it'll cause, the healthcare has gone through a rough time with covid let's just um when your main when your main basis is elective care surgeries and then, elective care surgeries I'll get cancelled for almost a year.

Pastor Bill:
[39:47] Yeah.

Pastor Newms:
[39:48] But no the reason I like to company I currently work for is because they offer a payment program, and our medical system is so messed up we all need payment programs to actually pay for any of our services because none of us can ever afford actual Healthcare.

Pastor Bill:
[40:08] Yeah.

Pastor Newms:
[40:09] And it's at zero percent interest the patient doesn't get charged anything extra,
the hospital doesn't get charged anything extra and it doesn't go on their anyone's credit score and I haven't been someone who went through bankruptcy because of medical bills, because of that but in Heather loves it because I saw Phoenix loves it because she, she can see Ellen insurance companies all day she's great at her job and it's really funny because she's really sweet, to the to the patients they'll if they get through to her that she should go well I'll head definitely take care of you everything's going to be fine let me put you on a brief hold give me just one moment and then like with like the people at the clinics it's like oh yes we'll definitely let me put you on a brief let me step by step by step but we just need to answer a couple but about that but you know super sweet and then she gets on with these insurance companies that aren't paying for medicine that these people need because they're going through kidney failure you know and it's like, yes but the temperature butter this is dated and then all of a sudden it's like well.

[41:31] What you don't understand is and like you don't I don't know what she says ninety-nine percent of the time, because it's that attitude it's real sweet it's real calm it's really everything's fine everything's great and then you just hear from the other just the uptick and you're like insurance company said, and Heather Phoenix is protecting her patients so.

Pastor Bill:
[42:00] That's funny all right so for me I got to again, um and I'm going to tell you what the name you know the companies are but I'm in a preface this with, it wasn't about the companies for me and it wasn't about what the companies did for me, it was being in positions that challenged me and that kept my focus varied, and gave me the ability to multitask, you know I've got this project and I've got this project and I'm trying to balance the time and make sure it's all working and I've got metrics that I can plug things into and make sure it all balances and so for me, adding all of that to do where I'm not bored and I've got multi things going on so.

[43:03] Um being the marketing director there I had to do I had to be cash here add to B marketing director I had to be team lead shift lead all that at the same time, so basically doing all of the running of the restaurant not actually being responsible for running the restaurant that was that was the actual, franchisees job she did a great job her and her husband they ran it great but I was there to do anything that they needed to do while they weren't there I could step in, and do that and so that was really fulfilling for me I really like that despite, how that ended where I was like you know I either need more money and less hours or I'm gonna have to start looking for a different job.

[43:58] And that really poisoned the relationship I had with the franchise owner, she didn't take that in the spirit that I was intended she took that as an insult or as a leveraging technique which it really wasn't I was just being honest you know this is what's going on, and I'm going to have to look for a new job and if I find something I'll give you two weeks-notice once I find something and so everything was just weren't real downhill from there, so despite that ending you know and the other job,
you know for all the same reasons that I listed was when I went back to work for Teen Mania after I left Gateway, or with separate from Gateway or however you want to say that I went back to work for Teen Mania and while that was a brief.

[44:57] Time because that ship was already sinking, um it really you know did all those things multiple fires and had to juggle and you know all that stuff so, that that was that was what it was this for me.

[45:28] Where do we go from here.

Pastor Newms:
[45:31] Well so. How was your week we haven't even done this part yet.

Pastor Bill:
[45:44] Oh man well I got my desks in. And then realize well I had enough space for the desks I didn't make enough space for me in my chair, so then I had to get a little creative and the way that I put in the desks.

Pastor Newms:
[46:07] I thought we I thought you measured that first.

Pastor Bill:
[46:10] I didn’t measure me I measured the space and I was like well this gives me space to walk in and out. But I didn't consider the size of my chair and the size of me sitting in the chair and doing this and all of that so. Had to be arranged a little bit but I got to desks so I have a little shit going on and those are working great, and then I got these lovely shelves this week this is my Father's Day present from my wife I went on Amazon and I was like, you know sent her a list I said I like this and I like this and she was like those are only shelves and I was like yeah but they're two different kind of shelves you get to pick which one, so I opened that yesterday and put those up so I could you know put all my stuff on it and you can't see oh so fine.

[47:14] Bottom shelf is knickknacks and then the next shelf is a cup few knickknacks and the, religious books that I reference from time to time one of them is the complete collections of Smith Wigglesworth, which I really like The Geneva Bible and the other one I don't really agree with everything that she teaches but it's the complete collections, Maria Woodworth Ettor, I like to reference it sometimes just to get an opposing Viewpoint you know it's not that she's unbiblical in her beliefs it's just that theological we don't always agree, and that's okay that's not a problem for me you know all that does is challenge me too.

[48:09] To find you know what I actually believe and why I believe it which is good and then my third shelf, I've got I love this this is a 50th Anniversary Edition TARDIS Doctor Who Tardis that my wife got me used to be a bauble that made noise but um,
Finnick made sure that it would never do that anymore and then I've got a couple of Doctor Who books from the time the time lord Victorious series that I still need to read but reading has become an issue for me lately and then I've got A Princess of Mars which is the beginning of Edgar Rice Burroughs Barsoom series,
and then I've got At The Earths Core which is the beginning of Edgar Rice Burroughs.

[49:03] Pelucidar series and then I've got the ever life shattering Lungbarrow,
which is the Doctor Who book that came out in the 80s that redefined the canon of Doctor Who and forever shaped, Doctor Who lore and everything has built upon that since then even the new twists that they've released in Doctor Who in these recent seasons have been inspired by this novel, last I checked there were only a few copies of that left and the cheapest you could get one for was a hundred and seven dollars.

Pastor Newms:
[50:10] Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo ba he searches.

Pastor Bill:
[50:13] Cheapest you can get it in paperback right now is 200 dollars.

Pastor Newms:
[50:18] Nice.

Pastor Bill:
[50:21] So that that up there on top of my shelf and when I asked for it was one of those shoot for the moon you know quests and then my mom found one for like 20 bucks,
and got it for me and I was like I didn't expect that to ever okay awesome. That will shoot for the my prayer request I had no idea.

Pastor Newms:
[50:55] I think you even cried a little.

[51:02] I mean not to front you but I'm pretty sure you did so.

Pastor Bill:
[51:11] Definitely been a grams my mama she she's something else so. I'll show you the book as it looks like this. All right so that's what happened this week with me a lot of,
labor and then I had to go through my filing cabinet and get rid of everything that I had you know. I have hoarder tendencies, so I went through my filing cabinet and threw away a 13 gallon trash bag worth of stuff from my filing cabinet and it's just a three drawer cabinet it's literally sitting underneath this desk right here and is only like 14 inches wide but it was stuffed to the brim with things and, is not important.

Pastor Newms:
[52:23] You have to you have to purge every now and then it is very important I learned that at a certain point in life and I don't like it, at all not even a little and I'm really really really really really really bad at it but my loving wife Zadie is much, better at it than I am and.

Pastor Bill:
[53:05] And what would they audit, I don't I don't have enough money to spend enough money to make an audit last more than a few minutes I don't even know what they would be auditing I'd be like, here you go here's all my bank statements for the year yes it's only 24 pages that is all the bank statements for the whole year, here you go.

Pastor Newms:
[53:32] It is true.

Pastor Bill:
[53:38] You just throw it all away well everything's digital now I mean you throw away receipts are all digital. Stores are like would you like a receipt and I'm like yeah I'm pretty sure my bank statements just going to tell me what you charged me so.
Unless I'm buying it from some place I said I think I might need to return this at some point. Then I don't need your piece of tree you can just say that.

Pastor Newms:
[54:11] I like the email option and then it goes to my email and then I don't look at it ever and forget to clean that email out.

Pastor Bill:
[54:21] It bugs me when I go to Sam's and all I buy is like what's the word,
consumables all I buy is consumables so it's not something I'm going to bring back and you get to the cash register and they're like would you like a printed receipt,
or would you like it printed and emailed so either way I'm gonna have to take a receipt.

Pastor Newms:
[54:46] Well would you like me to tell you why.

Pastor Bill:
[54:50] I would like to explain yeah so many of these explain to me why they scan the receipt and a couple of your items at the door.

Pastor Newms:
[54:57] Oh no that that that's just for are you walking out with something,
verification that's what I'm talking about I'm talking about the actual reason for certain receipting and how the receipting is done so the government actually dictates how receipts have to look and in what ways you can share them and depending on what you can buy, depends on how the receipt has to look so like places that sell, gift cards and things like that their receipts have to have specific language on them depending on the state and federal government and so because of that it's, certain states require
a printed receipt so some companies just print the receipt every time because it's cheaper than trying to figure out are you a consumer from that state it's not a requirement based on where you're at it's a requirement based on where you are a current resident and so because of that it's very interesting.

Pastor Bill:
[56:10] Biggs is like or now.

Pastor Newms:
[56:13] You can thank two states for that but I'm not going to name them because they're mean.

[56:22] And you can thank money launderers.

Pastor Bill:
[56:26] Juneteenth is a Federal holiday now.

Pastor Newms:
[56:30] Oh really.

Pastor Bill:
[56:32] Yeah it's Friday they voted on Thursday they officially voted to make Juneteenth a Federal holiday and then this year it was observed on Friday, you know celebrated Saturday, and so all federal buildings were closed on Friday all businesses that observe federal holidays were supposed to be closed on Friday, um and I thought you know I never want to be the white savior guy that's not who I am I'm an ally I'm a friend I will back you up you call the play, and I'll be there you know you say black lives matter and we need representation I'm the guy that goes you tell me what my responsibility is to back you up there I'm not the guy going around going, you know you're not representing them correctly that's not me I'm the Ally I meant you know you tell me what I'm supposed to be doing to back you up I'm there and I thought this was a good thing I thought you know finally the federal government is represent you know is Right is recognizing Juneteenth and if you don't know what Juneteenth is,
it is the day that.

[57:52] The slave owners in Texas officially received word, two years after the freeing of the slaves, um that, slavery was now illegal in the United States of America and had to let their slaves free and I said had to because that's actually how it went down,
they were not willingly setting them free in Texas there were other states that, willingly Texas that was not a thing Texas they had to be forced so Juneteenth is this,
this Landmark beginning of this march to equality some people say it's you know two years earlier when it started, saying you need to set all your slaves free is it isn't really the actual start it's the point, all of that is actually enforced is the word starts so to me Juneteenth is the beginning of that march to equality, but I've seen a lot of videos on Tic-Tok where like I said I'm an ally you tell me where to go and I've seen a lot of videos where a lot of people in the. What am I supposed to say now is it black or African-American or.

Pastor Newms:
[59:17] Just say community in that community.

Pastor Bill:
[59:20] Okay that Community are.

Pastor Newms:
[59:24] I'm not I'm not sure until I don't want to say it wrong let me let me be clear on why it's really depends on preference of the person you're talking.

Pastor Bill:
[59:30] Due respect, to who it's do we respectful they feel like it's pandering I've seen a lot of videos where they feel like this is just pandering and I get that I see their point of view, and if that's what we you know if that's the overwhelming consensus like I said I'm an ally I'll back you up, but I saw it as a recognition of the beginning of the March toward equality and so I was happy for it, so if somebody wants to email me if you're hearing that saying this somebody wants to email me and tell me how to support it and how to follow through or if I should just ignore it because like with the black history month thing for years I felt like that was pandering, I felt like.

Pastor Newms:
[1:00:22] Well there are some people go.

Pastor Bill:
[1:00:26] I felt like we need holidays all year long that celebrate Breck black history not cram everything into one month and go well this is everything that but you know it needs to be spread out over all year long all year long, we need to give recognition to the Pioneers that, made this country what it is that aren't white we should be doing that all year long it shouldn't be one month and then you know I shared a video on Tic-Tok of an interview that Morgan Freeman where he said the exact same thing and I was like that's how I felt about this for years.

Pastor Newms:
[1:01:07] Yeah.

Pastor Bill:
[1:01:09] And I'm an ally I'm not the white savior I'm not the.

Pastor Newms:
[1:01:12] We're not trying to do that you know.

Pastor Bill:
[1:01:13] I'm not going out there and trying to fix the world's ills for everybody else,
and so when he said that I was like hey I can share that because I agree with that and now you know someone in this community is actually saying it so it's, the 19th is Biggs asks because the 18th the date for Juneteenth the 19th is but when federal holidays fall on a Saturday they are observed on a Friday when they fall on a Sunday they are observed on a Monday.

Pastor Newms:
[1:01:48] When I first heard about Juneteenth it made me sick, the fact that we did you know that and I say we I don't mean we as white people I don't mean we as you know Texas that I'm no longer.

Pastor Bill:
[1:02:08] Proud Texan I was ashamed.

Pastor Newms:
[1:02:11] I say we as Americans we as humans continued to do that always just makes me sick.

Pastor Bill:
[1:02:21] It makes me sick that we had slaves as Americans at all like the whole Spirit of founding America was freedom and then we literally did the opposite we won't we should have done, when the when the Spanish ship showed up full of slaves, we should have bought them and made them Freemen all in one motion,we should have bought them and sent the Spaniards away and said go get us you know, go buy more people that have already been put into slavery bring them back we'll buy them from you and will make them citizens that's what we should have done.

Pastor Newms:
[1:03:09] I will actually take it a step further because you're a nicer person than I am I wouldn't do it that way I would buy them all get them off the boat and then magically that boat would disappear.

Pastor Bill:
[1:03:21] But that doesn't help with everyone in Spain that's already in slavery.

Pastor Newms:
[1:03:27] I know the prop yeah and yeah there's a lot of there's a lot of gray area in in that whole situation.

Pastor Bill:
[1:03:38] The Spaniards were going to Africa, the African tribes were stealing people from other tribes and then selling them to the Spaniards, then the Spaniards were going back to Spain and putting them into the slave trade and then the people that were Commerce minded, we're buying up a bunch of slaves and then bringing them over to the colonies you know and selling them to the Americans.

Pastor Newms:
[1:04:10] It's just it's messed up how the whole situation human beings are terrible we live in a fallen world and human beings do terrible things other human beings every day and it's absolutely disgusting.

Pastor Bill:
[1:04:25] It is.

Pastor Newms:
[1:04:29] And I say that not as someone who's like (disingenuous) it's disgusting I can't believe anyone would ever do that because there was a time in my life where I did some pretty terrible things and so it's one of those things where it's like I feel,
terrible for the terrible things I've done I was a bully at one point I was bullied I was you know I've been through lots of the different parts of the cycle, all terrible because we are terrible to each other for some, crazy reason that I've never fully understood.

Pastor Bill:
[1:05:05] And every year when we celebrate July 4th, and inevitably there's someone from that community that has issue with celebrating Freedom when as that freedom happened there were slaves. In this country that weren't set free at the same time I feel like that's valid and also not valid. Like yeah not everybody was free that's a problem and it was six, and it shouldn't have been taken time to fix it, it should have been fixed right away but I want us all out to celebrate that now we're free. Now but that's my personal feeling.

Pastor Newms:
[1:06:10] Well I mean we could definitely get into the wage slavery conversation but we will today because we're already.

Pastor Bill:
[1:06:19] Okay but that's not that's not.

Pastor Newms:
[1:06:20] I said we're not.

Pastor Bill:
[1:06:24] Whole class of people and injuring a whole other class of people a race of people rather.

Pastor Newms:
[1:06:32] Race I will agree with classes exactly what's going on.

Pastor Bill:
[1:06:36] Because exactly that's not a whole race of people and injuring a whole another race of people there are still problems.

Pastor Newms:
[1:06:41] Yes it is classism yes there are still problems.

Pastor Bill:
[1:06:46] I'm not going to argue against that there are still problems.

[1:06:58] I'm an ally not a savior so alright so we're out of time for this episode for this night, so unless you have anything else you want to add or in clay in unless anyone else has anything they want to contribute on chat we'll go ahead and wrap this up,
I cut my hand at some point this week just ever so slightly and I keep doing things that just like barely touch it and it makes it hurt. Yeah I don't know how I cut it. All right so now we're going to do the 30 second buffer because some of our streaming services require it before we hit the button otherwise it'll cut off what we're saying now so,
I'll sing a little song, 30 second buffer 30 second buffer 30 second buffer has it been 30 seconds yet of course not that's not how time works 30 second buffer 30 second buffer 30 second buffer, that's enough singing now we love you guys have a great week you say your thing now Newms.

Pastor Newms:
[1:08:14] You guys be safe please love you guys.

Pastor Bill:
[1:08:17] And until next time.

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