Pastor Bill:

[0:00] Hello and welcome to season 3 episode 16 of The Berean Manifesto; Faith, Hope, and Love for the Modern Christian. This is our first episode of the new year and so Happy New Year everybody, and now Newms is going to get mad at me because I said e’rybody just like he does when I say bidness. It's just how the words come out sometimes there it is so he's so annoyed with me. So, I was supposed to be in Tennessee this weekend but I'm not it's just sad.

 

Pastor Newms:

[0:41] Yeah it was supposed to be a surprise for you and sadly your littlest got very sick and you are not here.

 

Pastor Bill:

[0:55] Not very sick, but too sick to ride in a car for 12 hours and then spend the weekend at a stranger's house so.

 

Pastor Newms:

[1:04] There's sick and then there's - inside a stranger's house… it is a strange house is the correct way to say that. Um second off it was sick enough so that is very sick, because it just been a light fever just been a you know a call for something small like a little sick it would have, not been a problem but he was very sick because he was unable to come.

 

Pastor Bill:

[1:34] So I want to just.

 

Pastor Newms:

[1:36] Lied to me and you don't love me.

 

Pastor Bill:

[1:38] Strangers comment because Zaydiee is coming at me.

 

Pastor Newms:

[1:41] Called my house a stranger's house.

 

Pastor Bill:

[1:44] In Discord as well about calling you guys strangers as far as Finnick is concerned you only exist on a screen. To him you are in physical presence strange.

 

Pastor Newms:

[2:07] Yes but you did not specify so it made it seem like you were saying overall which we are not. Because your horse my feet.

 

Pastor Bill:

[2:19] Well he knows you Zaydiee doesn't get on the camera and say hello enough.

 

Pastor Newms:

[2:26] Zaydiee doesn’t get on any camera.

 

Pastor Bill:

[2:26] That’s neither here nor there.

 

Pastor Newms:

[2:31] Zaydiee doesn't get on the camera for our family bible study on Saturday he's like she still sits in a different room with the camera off she ain't getting on the camera you got on your mind.

 

Pastor Bill:

[2:41] I am sometimes out of my mind all.

 

Pastor Newms:

[2:43] You are lucky there's even a picture on our website of her.

 

Pastor Bill:

[2:47] Hmm right all right so, how was your week Pastor Newms?

 

Pastor Newms:

[2:56] My week was pretty good other than the fact that my best friend did not come in. Yeah because I got a text message from Grandma Gloria who is watching with Grandpa Biggs with with big G of G and. Then it was about the Jars of Clay thing so I knew it was semi-important in see now you have to bring it up because I ruined it just like I said I would.

 

Pastor Bill:

[3:31] It was it was germane to what we were saying what we were talking about earlier.

 

Pastor Newms:

[3:37] It was germane to what we were saying so we was good other than the fact that you know you didn't come in and it's funny because last week I made a joke about forgetting what day your birthday was on which I'm bad with days anyway so it didn't, you were like no it's not the second I was like know your birthday is the second because we were supposed to be here and we were going to celebrate it here tonight so. So it was good mister groggy came over, who's one of our Twitch friends he was excited to see you and was sad you weren't able to come because he wanted to meet you in real life as well, but he still came over and spent the weekend he left early tonight so he is not joining us in the house as he normally does when he comes over for the weekend and leave after because we are getting storms tonight, um and it went from 50 degrees when we left the house this morning, to under 40 when we were coming back at 3 p.m. and continuing to drop more and more as it got darker so there's a chance of snow tonight even, and so. He left a little early in his car because his car is not exactly a snowmobile.

 

Pastor Bill:

[5:08] A snowmobile.

 

Pastor Newms:

[5:10] Icy roads in a Corvette or is probably really really really bad idea so, yeah so he left a little early we sent him home with dinner so he could still be with, with us in thought for dinner and hanging out so, and Biggs asks on Twitch his screen froze for a moment the fact that they missed what we said how is little man doing.

 

Pastor Bill:

[5:50] Well that would be part of my week wouldn't it.

 

Pastor Newms:

[5:53] Yes how is your week Pastor Bill.

 

Pastor Bill:

[5:54] So he started off pretty strong and then my wife was like surprise for your 40th birthday I arranged a trip to Tennessee to go see your best friend to which I then cried like a baby, um which is okay that's fine, that's fine that all my hopes and dreams were dashed and I didn't get to get my birthday surprise and now I probably won't get anything for my birthday because. Whatever so yeah other than that that week was pretty good, like we said Finnick woke up in the middle of the night on Thursday night, coffin and gasping for air like, kinda like an asthma attack, sounded more like a seal sort of you know and so we've narrowed it down to two croup, usually three to five days of intense coughing and trying to get your air and thanks Biggs Biggs on Church says it's not all about you Pastor Bill.

 

Pastor Newms:

[7:06] One thing we can say about Biggs is he is not.

 

Pastor Bill:

[7:14] He's not shy about telling it like it is. So yeah and then so Thursday I took the cat, to the border the only boarding in our area that will take cats that haven't been neutered which is about a 50-minute drive away from my house, and on the way there, I had that little more you know like I listen all week for what are we supposed to talk about this Sunday what are we supposed to talk about this Sunday and on the way to drop the cat off I felt like, like the Holy Spirit was saying that the topic of Sunday was going to be You Can't Always Get What You Want. And I was like well that'll be a weird one to talk about in Tennessee with with Newms and and possibly Biggs in there and maybe Groggy be in there that would be fun. Yeah so you can't always get what you want is that's our topic tonight.

 

Pastor Newms:

[8:24] Yes yes it is.

 

Pastor Bill:

[8:27] And we tried and still didn't happen so so yeah, so there you go so that's what our topic is Tonight You Can't Always Get What You Want, and I was like um how are we gonna make that scriptural bigs on Twitch does that would be a good song I would be a good song with see how would that go let's see hmm sometime about being at a reception and seeing a woman with a, a wine glass in her hand he got to mention Footloose because Footloose is timeless, anyway well Workshop that later biggest we'll figure that out. Newms is glaring at me because earlier he said how many of the lyrics of the song you going to try to sneak in I said me. I didn't sneak the lyrics in I mentioned some of the lyrics like in.

 

Pastor Newms:

[9:38] Mmm I see yeah mmm.

 

Pastor Bill:

[9:50] That is our topic for tonight starting off the new year, every time every time I look away from the camera.

 

Pastor Newms:

[10:05] Well it's straight froze so it was probably the hiccup that did it, the the scripture on the bump Biggs was James for one through to but we haven't quite gotten there yet.

 

Pastor Bill:

[10:30] I got you Biggs I got you we're going to look at James Chapter 4 verses 1 through 3 we're going to be looking in John, chapter 3 verses 16 through 17 La people try to leave out verse 17, when we're going to be there we're going to be in second see I looked away again I move my arm in front of the camera and it went off again, 2nd Peter 3:9.

 

Pastor Newms:

[11:02] I don't understand why yours is doing that.

 

Pastor Bill:

[11:07] First Timothy Chapter 2 verses 3 through 4.

 

Pastor Newms:

[11:15] Is that only happening in teams or is it also happening when you are in Discord I don't think it happens when we're on Disco.

 

Pastor Bill:

[11:20] Only happens in teams if I put.

 

Pastor Newms:

[11:22] So it's a team's issue.

 

Pastor Bill:

[11:23] Yeah if a putting anything over teams or I turn my face away from the camera momentarily or. Any of those things then teams turns off my camera like that. If I turn my head away or block my face or. Click on another program other than teams as my main part like if I want to type into Discord, you know that it cuts off my camera and nothing else says that when work when we you and I are on Discord it just works I don't have to look at it I don't have to, anything. Okay so that first verse there was James Chapter 4 verses 1 through 3, and like Newms will send in the scripture bump was James chapter 1 through 2 a so the first little statement of verse 2 it says what is the source of wars and fights among you, don't they come from your passion that wages War within you you desire and do not have, that was the scripture bump and it goes on you murder and covet and cannot obtain you fight and wage war you do not have because you do not ask, you ask and do not receive because you ask with the wrong motives so that you may spend it on your pleasures. Right so you know Jesus said whatever you ask in my name. You know I'm going to go to the father and I'll I'll get you I got your back I get you covered that kind of a thing and then James is like yeah yeah he said that, but you're asking with the wrong motives you're not asking within the will of God you've got these selfish motives for these things that, you're going to use to hurt yourself with and that's why those prayers aren't being answered. Because, you irresponsible you asking irresponsibly so this is our this is our Pepe message for the beginning of the new year you can't always have what you get Always Get What You Want, can't so you need to lower your standards or, because you're not going to get what you want, and that's okay because when you covet and fight and wage all these wars with people outside of you. Because all these problems and then I know it's hard to tell in the English but their James in verse two switches the focus of the tone of what the words he's using, um you murdering coven cannot obtain then he switches focus and he says you fight and wage war that whole statement is used with terms that refer to the, you fight yourself and you wage war against yourself, because you want things that are bad for you you want things that will hurt you, can't get the things that you want and that's not always a bad thing. If you do not get those things that you want sometimes that's a good thing, because you don't know his want the things that is good for you now, you're going to be mad at me but we're going to we're going to go a Direction that's going to upset you but that's okay. Nobody can get what they want ever not fully Jesus didn't get what he wanted. And God ultimately we'll never get the fullness of what he wants nobody gets what they want. Okay so.

 

Pastor Newms:

[16:12] Because it's God's desire for us all to follow it's God's desire to have a relationship with all of humanity.

 

Pastor Bill:

[16:19] 2nd Peter 3:9.

 

Pastor Newms:

[16:20] Heart is broken by the fact that it doesn't happen.

 

Pastor Bill:

[16:25] The Lord does not delay his promise as some understand delay but is patient with you not wanting any to perish but all, to come to repentance that's God's will, God wants everyone to come to repentance and do not perish and I know that word repentance is severely misunderstood in today's culture, repentance doesn't mean, you admit that you're doing something wrong and that the way you see life is wrong and that somebody knows how to live life better than you that's not what this word means this word means, turn. Turn right so basically what it means is in your life you look forward and you go you know what if I keep doing this, that's call me bad for me it's had bad results in the past. And it's brought me nothing but pain and suffering and you turn that's repentance you know it's kind of this whole new year's resolution thing that people do where they go you know what I'm gonna drink more water.

 

Pastor Newms:

[17:42] You started that before New Year's.

 

Pastor Bill:

[17:44] Yeah cuz I saw this bottle on at Target and it has the times of the day on it and I was like nice that'll help remind me to make sure that I'm drinking.

 

Pastor Newms:

[17:55] I'm just saying that's not necessarily a resolution for you because you had anyway.

 

Pastor Bill:

[18:03] To make the resolution leading up to before the day of otherwise you're just sitting there on January first go and I'm gonna eat chocolate.

 

Pastor Newms:

[18:21] That's how everyone handles there their resolutions is that the last moment they look at themselves and go roof what's wrong with me and then figure it out.

 

Pastor Bill:

[18:31] That's what I'm saying I didn't I a week ahead at least a week I was like yeah I drink a lot of dr. pepper that's your problem.

 

Pastor Newms:

[18:41] Hmm who else is said that a bunch that you drink too much Dr Pepper.

 

Pastor Bill:

[18:46] My best friend my wife my mother my chiropractor yeah I don't really talk to anybody else.

 

Pastor Newms:

[18:57] And yet they all said the same thing it's odd that that happened like an even even in my ginger ale that I drink I don't drink straight ginger ale, I drink water down ginger ale even.

 

Pastor Bill:

[19:15] All right so.

 

Pastor Newms:

[19:18] Don't know why I'm leaning so far down tonight I much farther down than normal.

 

Pastor Bill:

[19:22] We skipped John 3:16 and 17 because Newms jumped into agree, what I was saying and that's fine but I'm going to read it now, because we skipped it for God loved the world in this way he gave his one and only son so that everyone believes who would, so that everyone who believes in him, will not perish but have eternal life for God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world but to save the world through him, and this idea of perish but have eternal life, this word parish is as idea of Eternal death or what some have called Eternal separation from God, is this idea of Parish that. Is communicated there in John 3:16 and the reason that you know, for God did not send his son of the world, um taking dim the world there was he didn't send Jesus to die, in order to condemn the world He sent Jesus to die because Adam, and Eve and the serpent had this whole interaction where they condemned the world and God, started this plan to do everything in his power to make it right. Well why couldn't God just snap his fingers and just make it right if he's the oh mighty powerful that okay, you know that would make God a liar because God made certain say made certain statements at the beginning that were pretty binding, and even more when we look at First Timothy Chapter 2 verses 3 through 4 it says, this is good and it pleases God our savior who wants everyone to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth and if you want to know what is good that Paul is talking about there to Timothy then you can go read the couple of verses before that in your own time, I'm not trying to steer you away from something and start a scripture on a you know an open end like that, you should go read that on your own because it's a good thing you should read all right so God, wants everyone to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth and we know, from Revelation chapter 20 that don't happen.

 

Pastor Newms:

[22:34] Sadly yes.

 

Pastor Bill:

[22:35] So if even the god of the universe who created everything. Said I everything in motion can't get what he wants. Why should we expect to get everything we. And so going into 2022 almost at 20, killing in the 2022 I want you to just remember that this is this can be the year. That you choose not to be a petulant child. And recognize it's okay to not get what you want it's okay. To find a way around that and live your life with joy in spite, other fact that you can't get what you want and if you really try sometimes. You might find you're still not going to get what you want. Cheerleader I almost said the whole line from that song but I didn't. So do you think Pastor names you have anything to add. He stares content content can contemplative lie at the.

 

Pastor Newms:

[24:23] Nope that's cantankerous lie.

 

Pastor Bill:

[24:25] With a with a hint of disdain on his breath as he.

 

Pastor Newms:

[24:31] There's no hint there is straight disdain for you quoting the song, now we've all done it I mean it happens the song has been in my head since you type the stupid title to me and I've just been going hmm.

 

Pastor Bill:

[24:47] Can't Always Get What You Want.

 

Pastor Newms:

[24:51] Be careful copyrighted music.

 

Pastor Bill:

[24:52] That's the status almost thing is that one line there.

 

Pastor Newms:

[24:55] So but yeah that I mean it's it's a fact, what I love is when people try to twist some scriptures to say otherwise you know when you twist scriptures.

 

Pastor Bill:

[25:16] I looked away from the camera.

 

Pastor Newms:

[25:18] Yeah you did when you and I I looked up and there's no the the actual like answers that people have said for this issue, is to delete and reinstall teams, later today we should delete and reinstall teams it's a it's a driver it's a reading your camera driver wrong issue which makes no logical sense.

 

Pastor Bill:

[25:48] It won't even let me turn my camera back on now.

 

Pastor Newms:

[25:51] So it always irritated me when people try to twist scripture with irritates me with anytime people to scripture but when people try to Trish scripture to say you know, we do it, excuse me if you pray in this way or do these things then God will give you exactly what you want or you know if you lean into God hard enough to where all of your, wants and desires line up perfectly with his will and plan then you'll always get what you want, and it's like okay first off we're humans so we're always going to, like want. When we're not supposed to I don't care how how far you've leaned in sinasohn that's why it's it's listed, a form of wanting is listed in the in the 10 because you can want but then once you want too much it's bad. And you know as. We stated you know his desire his perfect will is that everyone comes to Christ and we sadly no it's not going to happen so. Thinking that if you line up your your wants directly to the will correctly and then they're like well not necessarily his will but but his plan and it's like okay you're jumping through too many Hoops it's just the. You know if you don't get what you pray for there's a reason. That reason might not be even because God said no there is just a reason so. You know lean in move on sadly we don't always get what we want we sometimes get what is best for us we sometimes don't. I've tried the whole night not to say it but I can't not say it because the Bible plainly says that and. I have tried so hard not to because it's such an annoying song. Is your camera still not letting.

 

Pastor Bill:

[28:45] Yeah it won't even let me turn it back on.

 

Pastor Newms:

[28:49] That is hilarious that's fine your PB that works.

 

Pastor Bill:

[28:52] I'm PB.

 

Pastor Newms:

[28:55] And the funny thing is is lights up when you talk so it's it's you know just as if they can hear your mouth moving it's just womp womp. But I mean that that's something that sadly we always have to look at and you know it is the root of a lot of, issues and a lot of people can't understand, you know I prayed for it I did everything that was right I did you know why don't I get, what I've asked for why don't I get what I what I want or what I need or feel like I need, you know things like that and it's like well there's a whole Litany of reasons like there is a big list you know God could have told you to wait God could have told you know because it's not, you know it might negatively affect something else God could have told you know because you know God could have told you yes and it's coming but, you got to wait awhile because of other factors I mean there's so many things that can happen but so many people are like well I prayed for it so it has to happen, I mean no so I mean it's always something that has always be weary when someone says you know, if you do this goggle answer your prayers it's like.

 

Pastor Bill:

[30:30] When you boil guide down to a formula it's no longer prayer it's now a form of witchcraft. But I mean you know what I'm saying like.

 

Pastor Newms:

[30:47] Yeah when you when you try to manipulate. The will let me if you try to manipulate the rules like you know there are people that when you take, certain scriptures out of context like the Prosperity Gospel where you preach you know if you tithe if you give if you if you if you break your neck, for the church then God will reward you, and he will prosper you 100% because this scripture that says that God will press it down and it'll be overflowing so if you give to me God will give back to you and you're like. And sadly because misrepresentation of Scripture A lot of people buy into that and a lot of people have sent their last money into people who are lying to them.

 

Pastor Bill:

[31:41] Now, you're you're relying heavily on an implication and what you're saying but not actually saying it assuming people are making the connection that, you're specifically talking about dollars and cents as the implied reward.

 

Pastor Newms:

[31:59] Yes yes yes.

 

Pastor Bill:

[32:01] And that's not how the Bible works the Bible does say God wants to prosper you and you know press down shaken together overflowing but Prosperity does not mean, exclusively dollars and cents which we've talked about in the past is wide array of what what constitutes as prosper, and it's when you boil the word Prosper down to mean dollars and cents that's when you've twisted the scripture and when you've gone outside of what the actual message there is. So I knew what you were saying but I wanted to make sure that everyone listening or watching you know.

 

Pastor Newms:

[32:51] Good job.

 

Pastor Bill:

[32:54] Understood the dynamic of what you were actually saying.

 

Pastor Newms:

[32:57] No it's that's that's valid but that that is always something that has ticked me off is people who have taken advantage of those types of scriptures and some of them who have gone even the step further making them self rich, in preaching those gospels not that we would ever name names or point fingers but you all know who I'm talking about.

 

Pastor Bill:

[33:21] A worker is worth his wage sure I'll give you that but I agree, if you're making that wage, on telling the little old ladies in Pasadena that if they send you their grocery money instead of by themselves food that God will take away all of their back pain forever and they'll never have to worry about money again now God may do that, God has done miraculous things but for you to say, he's going to do that because you send me money you either a better, just heard God say that in your ear or be you're a thief.

 

Pastor Newms:

[34:10] Yeah and and it's one of those things where, you know there are good and bad everywhere sadly and humans have issues and I'm not saying everyone who preaches the Prosperity Gospel is bad but there are some who have taken advantage of it.

 

Pastor Bill:

[34:30] What is it's a slippery slope and you it's just like anything it's like Paul okay let's talk about politics it's just like politics nobody becomes, nobody gets into public service as a politician because they think, I'm going to be a baller and make lots of money and screw over the little guy that's not what anybody.

 

Pastor Newms:

[34:53] I won't say nobody I won't say that I think there are some people who do.

 

Pastor Bill:

[34:57] Maybe there are some people who do the majority of people don't but then a year 10 years 15 years in, that's pretty much what 99% of public servants you know politicians how they're living their lives, um And it's it you know it's a slippery slope it always is power corrupts money corrupts attention kurup's it's just it's human nature to give in to these things that,want but you can't always get what you want and when you do you end up hurting people and that's, not good we should never think yeah I'm gonna hurt people I'm going to screw people over because it's what I want, I want it so I'm going to take it and it does it hurt people sure don't do that.

 

Pastor Newms:

[36:04] No

 

Pastor Bill:

[36:05] Don't be that guy or that gal.

 

Pastor Newms:

[36:07] In 1999 might be too high that's 85.

 

Pastor Bill:

[36:21] That takes money from a lobbyist or takes a steak dinner from a lobbyist period has become corrupted and needs to not be in politics any longer.

 

Pastor Newms:

[36:36] What will the problem is is. You implied you implied Federal level but you didn't say Federal level.

 

Pastor Bill:

[36:47] You're right I implied Federal level.

 

Pastor Newms:

[36:49] And so that's why I would have to argue with you is because of that implication.

 

Pastor Bill:

[36:53] No you're right I applied but didn't State just like earlier you did with your thing I did the same thing you did.

 

Pastor Newms:

[37:12] Yeah there's a lot in politics but we won't discuss most of it so anywho because that's not the type of podcast we are that's a different podcast goal is.

 

Pastor Bill:

[37:23] I'm going to I'm going to make a personal statement that has nothing to do with the equation house that is political I think lobbyists need to become an illegal thing, we don't need lobbyists anymore and the day and age when, little company ABC Pest Control in California couldn't, be seen by their Senator without a lobbyist absolutely we needed lobbyists and the day and age when the internet is literally in everyone's pocket, lobbyists are just corruption that's my personal statement. That's all I have to say about that alright we're nine minutes away from the end of this episode did you have anything else you wanted to add to tonight's episode.

 

Pastor Newms:

[38:13] No I don't I don't have anything else.

 

Pastor Bill:

[38:18] All right so everybody enjoy the rest of your Christmas season remember it's a 12-day season that started on December 25th ends on January 5th and then we've got Epiphany coming up.

 

Pastor Newms:

[38:30] Wait I thought it was the 6th.

 

Pastor Bill:

[38:33] January 6 is Epiphany but that is the 13th day.

 

Pastor Newms:

[38:38] I thought it was the 12th okay my bad.

 

Pastor Bill:

[38:42] So just simmer 25th through January 5th is 12 days, and then January 6 is Epiphany so you guys enjoy your week have a great epiphany, we will be meeting next Sunday on January 9th which is my actual birthday I'll be turning 40 years old at 5:32 p.m.

 

Pastor Newms:

[39:11] Biggs I am not happy with what you just said on Twitch I have the card in front of me and I was really hoping we were going to get to blow past it this week but you said something and that is mean.

 

Pastor Bill:

[39:25] My New Year's gift to Pastor newms we're gonna skip that bit tonight so, we are live with this podcast every Sunday evening at 6:30 p.m. Central Standard Time you can join us on Twitch YouTube Facebook she hit the live experience, and as you have you heard tonight when people type into the chat it shows up live for us and we can respond and you can be a part of the conversation, it's good time a good time lots of fun time and we enjoy it a whole lot this podcast comes out anywhere that you get podcasts on Wednesday nights at 7:00, p.m. Central Standard Time and so you can go and listen to it there is a transcription available and if you if you like reading Trend I can't stand the transcription it drives me batty trying to read it and make sense of it when I'm just trying to edit it edit it to format it to where it's a readable format and then I catch these little errors from here to here where things like, instead of Pastor Newms it says Pastor Gnomes g-n-o-m-e-s is what it thinks Pastor Newms is name is sometimes which is hilarious, but we have a.

 

Pastor Newms:

[40:44] It doesn't like my name.

 

Pastor Bill:

[40:45] We have transcription so if you have someone that is hearing impaired that you think would enjoy the message that we bring than that transcription is available at ekk.house you go over the podcast and there's the transcription is right there with it the transcription also goes out as the info to Apple podcasts and on our host pod Bean anywhere that carries that description that has the full description available then that is you can find the, transcription of the podcast there so we love you guys I hope you have a great 2022 we will be back, next Sunday so you guys have a great week.

 

Pastor Newms:

[41:36] Be safe out there y'all.

 

Pastor Bill:

[41:38] He probably just he gets outside trying pauses every time it's.

 

Pastor Newms:

[41:42] I do I do I'm not going to okay so the question for the week.

 

Pastor Bill:

[41:45] I don't know why I'm pointing at the camera no what are you doing we weren't going to do it.

 

Pastor Newms:

[41:48] Is I already pulled it we have to go over it at least.

 

Pastor Bill:

[41:51] Oh my goodness.

 

Pastor Newms:

[41:53] If you had to rearrange the letters of your first name and give yourself a new name what would your new name be.

 

Pastor Bill:

[42:00] If you rearrange the letters of my first name.

 

Pastor Newms:

[42:03] This question is terrible I'm glad we skipped it all right you guys have a great night out there in the world.

 

Pastor Bill:

Until next time…

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